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Title: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 09, 2012, 06:44:19 PM
Hi guy's

As some of you know i have designed a plate that will allow the use of the Elcon servo saver push/pull steering system. Due to much interest i have decided to offer the plates for sale.

This is a do it yourself mod as i will supply the plates only, this leaves you with many options for the parts required to complete the conversion.

The plates are laser cut 3mm stainless steel, possibly offer in alloy later on.

The stock throttle/brake servo may be used in original position with stock linkages, I chose to use a separate throttle/brake set up..

The plates were cut to suit hitech servo's, other servo's may require you to modify plate the slightly.


Parts required to complete are below:



You can use a stock hump pack 5b batt pack. I am using a killer rc 6.6 life pack.

like i said this is a hands on mod and i found quite enjoyable and satisfying to complete it myself and if your not that way inclined i would look at other options.

The price for these plates is $45.00 + $5.00 P&H
Without the servo's and elcon/FG saver you can complete this mod for under $100.00 including plates.

I am happy to answer any questions and help with an install if required..end of the day it's a very simple custom servo plate.


Notes:
This is a hands on mod and if your not prepared for a bit of work setting it up then other options may be better for you...
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: in rod we trust on August 09, 2012, 06:47:19 PM
nice work brett , good price as well..
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Post by: Big_Car_Killa on August 09, 2012, 08:24:36 PM
Well done mate, post payment details mate!
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Ddrummer16 on August 09, 2012, 11:05:14 PM
Gotta say Brett, I'm very happy with mine, fitted up good just needed to massage a hole or two other then that its a great piece of kit! I would highly recommend it to anyone. 

THanks again mate
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 09, 2012, 11:26:21 PM
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Gotta say Brett, I'm very happy with mine, fitted up good just needed to massage a hole or two other then that its a great piece of kit! I would highly recommend it to anyone.

THanks again mate


Hey thanks Jesse,i'm glad you like them ,have you already finished the install?

These plates were drawn up on a rovan chassis and an outlaw rc front plate,so there may be minor hiccups with various chassis and plates.

i have left the 4 x mount hole's on the large plate the same size so owners that don't run a standard 5b cage(eg:t-chase cage) can use the same size mount bolts.

If you use the 5b cage then the 2 x front hole's will need to be drilled to except the cage where it mounts at the front and trim some plastic off the cage mount posts to allow for the extra 3mm depth in the chassis to get the standard pins in at the bottom.

I will include some basic instructions with the neoplates and any buyers can get me here with questions.

cheers
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Ddrummer16 on August 09, 2012, 11:42:16 PM
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Gotta say Brett, I'm very happy with mine, fitted up good just needed to massage a hole or two other then that its a great piece of kit! I would highly recommend it to anyone.

THanks again mate


Hey thanks Jesse,i'm glad you like them ,have you already finished the install?

These plates were drawn up on a rovan chassis and an outlaw rc front plate,so there may be minor hiccups with various chassis and plates.

i have left the 4 x mount hole's on the large plate the same size so owners that don't run a standard 5b cage(eg:t-chase cage) can use the same size mount bolts.

If you use the 5b cage then the 2 x front hole's will need to be drilled to except the cage where it mounts at the front and trim some plastic off the cage mount posts to allow for the extra 3mm depth in the chassis to get the standard pins in at the bottom.

I will include some basic instructions with the neoplates and any buyers can get me here with questions.

cheers

Yeah Brett finished fitting it up today, I will post a pic tomorrow of it all setup, All I need to do is get a receiver box and its ready to go. 

I used the same top plate as you (outlaw rc) the only one it might not work with is the Integy version as I think there is no holes in them (correct me if I'm wrong)
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 10, 2012, 12:12:57 AM
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Gotta say Brett, I'm very happy with mine, fitted up good just needed to massage a hole or two other then that its a great piece of kit! I would highly recommend it to anyone.

THanks again mate


Hey thanks Jesse,i'm glad you like them ,have you already finished the install?

These plates were drawn up on a rovan chassis and an outlaw rc front plate,so there may be minor hiccups with various chassis and plates.

i have left the 4 x mount hole's on the large plate the same size so owners that don't run a standard 5b cage(eg:t-chase cage) can use the same size mount bolts.

If you use the 5b cage then the 2 x front hole's will need to be drilled to except the cage where it mounts at the front and trim some plastic off the cage mount posts to allow for the extra 3mm depth in the chassis to get the standard pins in at the bottom.

I will include some basic instructions with the neoplates and any buyers can get me here with questions.

cheers

Yeah Brett finished fitting it up today, I will post a pic tomorrow of it all setup, All I need to do is get a receiver box and its ready to go.  

I used the same top plate as you (outlaw rc) the only one it might not work with is the Integy version as I think there is no holes in them (correct me if I'm wrong)

Thats fantastic mate,you don't muck around,well done  clap1 !woohoo!


the integy plate could be drilled out i would say..
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Mr.Leopard on August 10, 2012, 05:45:47 AM
Mate just to give you the heads up on what an fg servo saver is worth, they are $69 the cheapest I've found

Good for the DIY guy I guess I'm sorry but with a list like that of parts that I would have to buy and make I would rather stick to the other fg steering setup on the market, that is a direct bolt in with every part included and no stuffing around to make it work

That list of parts is a major turn off

Just my o2cents
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: in rod we trust on August 10, 2012, 08:33:32 AM
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Mate just to give you the heads up on what an fg servo saver is worth, they are $69 the cheapest I've found

Good for the DIY guy I guess I'm sorry but with a list like that of parts that I would have to buy and make I would rather stick to the other fg steering setup on the market, that is a direct bolt in with every part included and no stuffing around to make it work

That list of parts is a major turn off

Just my o2cents

not many parts at all, brett's neoplates takes the hardest part out. the rest is simple easy stuff..
as drummer mentioned in his post.
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Ddrummer16 on August 10, 2012, 01:15:36 PM
the only thing I had to buy was the elcon servo saver and a set of smaller turnbuckles, I used smartech ones.
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: bajabrad on August 10, 2012, 01:47:57 PM
Maybe Mr.L's 0.02c is only worth 0.00001c......thumbsup

Good on ya for sharing your upgrades Brett!!!!!
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 10, 2012, 05:54:48 PM
Cheers guys,it's always good to be positive and thanks for the support  headbang





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Mate just to give you the heads up on what an fg servo saver is worth, they are $69 the cheapest I've found

Good for the DIY guy I guess I'm sorry but with a list like that of parts that I would have to buy and make I would rather stick to the other fg steering setup on the market, that is a direct bolt in with every part included and no stuffing around to make it work

That list of parts is a major turn off

Just my o2cents



As i stated in the description,under $100.00 not including a Fg or Elcon servo saver.. dontknow but thanks for the heads up clap1


Mate if you consider that a lot of parts and doing a bit of work to finish it all too hard,i'm quite surprised your involved in rc, rc is a DIY hobby,this is a cheap option only, by all means buy your preferred setup.

And don't be sorry,because i really don't care...everyone is entitled to there opinion.


Some people actually enjoy putting things together,some don't i guess
Title: Neoplate
Post by: xr8ute on August 10, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
Well done Brett, I do like the way you have both throttle and brake servos in a line.
Nice and simple for linkage setup!
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 10, 2012, 06:37:41 PM
Thank you Dean thumbsup
Title: Neoplate
Post by: Godles on August 10, 2012, 07:15:36 PM
Is fantastic to see how quickly you went from cardboard mockups from an idea to where you are now!

Some like kits some like rtr each to there own

Forgot to say some like manufacturing :p


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Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 10, 2012, 08:21:28 PM
Cheers Godles  thumbsup

the whole process did take longer than it may appear,it took quite a few weeks,i do not make them,i'm in the plastics industry..
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: atmmak5 on August 10, 2012, 11:42:12 PM
Everything looks and sounds easy but a lot of time and r&d gets put into products like this.
Hats of to ya mate for offering a better steering solution  clap1

Is c/f an option in the future  bananadance1
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: in rod we trust on August 11, 2012, 12:14:03 AM
his a tip for you brett ....

if you get a bloke in china asking if you could sell him one for his baja ....and he might tell you a story my baja turn's terrible etc etc, and i need this for racing or whatever..


don't bloody sell him one !!!!  you know he wants to clone it.. ;D
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Mr.Leopard on August 11, 2012, 10:25:04 AM
Ain't that your mate Ambro? Lol
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: MONAROMAN on August 11, 2012, 10:48:17 AM
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Ain't that your mate Ambro? Lol

Ha ha Kaleeoplate!

Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 11, 2012, 12:08:57 PM
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Everything looks and sounds easy but a lot of time and r&d gets put into products like this.
Hats of to ya mate for offering a better steering solution  clap1

Is c/f an option in the future  bananadance1


Thanks mate  thumbsup

Never thought about other materials really,C/F would look good too,not to mention the weight savings

I will look into some C/F copies, be interested myself to see the costs here.

cheers
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 11, 2012, 02:00:00 PM
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his a tip for you brett ....

if you get a bloke in china asking if you could sell him one for his baja ....and he might tell you a story my baja turn's terrible etc etc, and i need this for racing or whatever..


don't bloody sell him one !!!!  you know he wants to clone it.. ;D


LOL Ambro,he can copy it if he wants,anyone can,i'm just trying to recover a little coin that i outlayed...

Big thanks to Ozzy for giving me a platform to do this,your a champ mate and been a big help clap1
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: in rod we trust on August 11, 2012, 05:58:42 PM
no probs brett..

i ll be seeing my bro tomorrow, i'll ask him if he wants a set.. and good on ya ozzy for allowing another great ausie  product up for us to have a choice and buy..
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Ddrummer16 on August 11, 2012, 06:32:18 PM
I'll be giving the NEOplate a review on monday after race day tomorrow.
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: klh mx10 on August 13, 2012, 10:09:57 PM
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Everything looks and sounds easy but a lot of time and r&d gets put into products like this.
Hats of to ya mate for offering a better steering solution  clap1

Is c/f an option in the future  bananadance1


Thanks mate  thumbsup

Never thought about other materials really,C/F would look good too,not to mention the weight savings

I will look into some C/F copies, be interested myself to see the costs here.

cheers

I'd be interested in a CF one too Brett, I think getting CF plate cut neatly is an issue, but yeah if viable for u to do it I'd be in for one.
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Ddrummer16 on August 13, 2012, 10:18:52 PM
Well its monday aint it, time to give a little review.

Now first of all I didn't have the best race day but I got a little run time out of it so this is based off about 4 laps. My first lap in the first heat was awful as my steering was back to front (right was left and left was right) I only lasted one lap before the dogbone spat itself out.

My other laps were AMAZING, the steering is a vast improvement over stock steering, nice and smooth and very quick.

I'm using Smartech turnbuckle (from the servo to the servo saver) which might be to short or just not up to the job as the ripped out of the ends.

Hopefully I can give a better review after the next TnT at SALA
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 13, 2012, 10:39:22 PM
Cool Jesse,well to a degree anyway,spewing you had issues with the buckles  bang head  turnbuckles need to be the exact same length, also are you using the big blue hitech horn?

and yeah mate the first thing i noticed with mine was how fast it will turn in,it's like learning to drive again.

My turnbuckles were made of 4mm mild steel rod and rovan stabilizer bar ends,no issues here yet,touch wood.

i'm going out again on wednesday morning so will see how this bash goes thumbsup

I'd like to see some pics of your setup?
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Ddrummer16 on August 13, 2012, 10:54:51 PM
Yeah, I'm going to psr soon to see if I can get something a little beefyer and maybe some alloy ends. Yup running the double sided servo horn. 

Sorry Brett keep forgetting about the pics, will def get some tomorrow for ya.
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 13, 2012, 11:43:21 PM
No worries Jesse,
and how did you find the install? do you think it was easy enough to fit it all up? was easy for me as i removed and replaced mine quite a few times.
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: JOHNSEE on August 14, 2012, 12:30:14 PM
When i saw it on Jesse's car on race day Sunday my eyes grew bigger looks like a very beneficial investment to me and when i get around to buying one ill be recommending it to many!! headbang

Good stuff Brett.. !
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Ddrummer16 on August 14, 2012, 10:31:22 PM
I've got some pictures now, Not the greatest pics but you can see how it all works/goes together
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 14, 2012, 11:01:17 PM
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When i saw it on Jesse's car on race day Sunday my eyes grew bigger looks like a very beneficial investment to me and when i get around to buying one ill be recommending it to many!! headbang

Good stuff Brett.. !

Cheers Johnsee, i'm liking mine so far too  thumbsup
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 14, 2012, 11:14:43 PM
Good on you Jesse thanks for the pics,
when you get a receiver box it will be a lot neater,be careful your wires don't rub raw and short something out. i used some shrink wrap on my antenna and ran it up my cage,its basically out of sight.

I can see why your turnbuckles pulled out,looks like there is about 2mm going into the ends,needs to get some good bite here, 5mm is a good start,so like you said earlier,just a little short as is.i would also get longer turnbuckles as they look like they might be vulnerable also,

you done well mate and i'm sure you will finish it all off nicely thumbsup




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with a hump pack,you may need to trim back the throttle horn,depending on how large the receiver box is.or possibly run on the other side,but then the body for a 5B may be an issue.

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Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Hor Mann on August 16, 2012, 11:10:53 AM
I have only just had a really good look at this thread..

Good job mate and good to see another quality product coming from Australia..thumbsup

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Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 16, 2012, 09:08:50 PM
Cheers mate,good for the DIY fellas out there i think.

 love that pic  thumbsup
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Craig#991 on August 17, 2012, 12:00:40 AM
I'd be very keen on a Carbon version as well Neo headbang. Don't quote me but Bajabrad might be able to help you out with cutting Carbon. Be worth sending him a PM anyway thumbsup.
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 17, 2012, 02:45:14 PM
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I'd be very keen on a Carbon version as well Neo headbang. Don't quote me but Bajabrad might be able to help you out with cutting Carbon. Be worth sending him a PM anyway thumbsup.

I'm trying for a local bussiness at the moment Craig,but yeah bajabrad offered early days with the neoplate,i think he is in Queensland,just much easier if i can do things local at this stage,things are looking good for the CF plates and i will let you know as soon as i hear back from a couple of businesses thumbsup

As you most likely know it cant be laser cut,needs waterjet cutting,which i believe is not as neat as laser,so i need to suss that out a bit more.
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: bajabrad on August 17, 2012, 03:15:31 PM
Nearly as Good Neo. If you're interested you can get the material sent to me with the drawing. I'll cut a few for you if I can keep two for my cars? Freight isn't that expensive & I'll do it for mates rates thumbsup
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 17, 2012, 03:48:32 PM
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Nearly as Good Neo. If you're interested you can get the material sent to me with the drawing. I'll cut a few for you if I can keep two for my cars? Freight isn't that expensive & I'll do it for mates rates thumbsup

Hey thanks mate,i wasn't looking at sourcing the CF myself,one company actually has the CF already,i will be in touch soon mate as i may very well take up your offer,cheers Brad
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 21, 2012, 12:31:55 AM
Still waiting on some replies about the carbon fibre,i can say though that C/F is not cheap...



Also for those that may be wondering what is involved for removal of the neoplate once fully installed is rather easy and quite quickly done..

just a matter of losening the steering servo front mount bolts and the removal of the servo horn which can be accessed through the bottom of the chassis,(small hole needs to be drilled for access here)then the 2 x rear plate mount bolts,thats it.

So you can have the main plate and all servo's out in just a few minutes wrenching,this leaves all the steering intact for any maintenance that may be required.

Cheers
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Hor Mann on August 21, 2012, 06:29:44 AM
Maybe, you should look at doing a detailed instruction (with pics).

Do one for installation and removal.
You will be surprised how much this will help with selling your product..thumbsup
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: in rod we trust on August 21, 2012, 10:00:51 AM
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Good on you Jesse thanks for the pics,
when you get a receiver box it will be a lot neater,be careful your wires don't rub raw and short something out. i used some shrink wrap on my antenna and ran it up my cage,its basically out of sight.

I can see why your turnbuckles pulled out,looks like there is about 2mm going into the ends,needs to get some good bite here, 5mm is a good start,so like you said earlier,just a little short as is.i would also get longer turnbuckles as they look like they might be vulnerable also,

you done well mate and i'm sure you will finish it all off nicely thumbsup




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with a hump pack,you may need to trim back the throttle horn,depending on how large the receiver box is.or possibly run on the other side,but then the body for a 5B may be an issue.

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looks bloody neat... i might bite the bullet and get either one of these fg setups on the market..
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 21, 2012, 10:14:03 PM
Either one Ambro??there is only one,lol,break a leg mate,you can buy my drawings for $5000.00 and even use the name,you will get your money back by 2050 and if you get onto the chinese you will never get it back(this is i presume what you would do)
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 21, 2012, 10:15:39 PM
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Maybe, you should look at doing a detailed instruction (with pics).

Do one for installation and removal.
You will be surprised how much this will help with selling your product..thumbsup


Yes you are right here,i will see what i can do over the weekend  thumbsup
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Ddrummer16 on August 23, 2012, 12:06:34 AM
Hey Brett, I was going to upload the pics of the rx box I made but they have come out far to small. And Its not going to work the way I thought so I've gone back to my trusty zip lock bag lol
Title: Re: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Mr.Leopard on August 23, 2012, 05:24:22 AM
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Either one Ambro??there is only one,lol,break a leg mate,you can buy my drawings for $5000.00 and even use the name,you will get your money back by 2050 and if you get onto the chinese you will never get it back(this is i presume what you would do)

Sorry mate but what do you mean there's only one ?

Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 2 years and just crawled out now?
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on August 23, 2012, 07:55:38 AM
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Either one Ambro??there is only one,lol,break a leg mate,you can buy my drawings for $5000.00 and even use the name,you will get your money back by 2050 and if you get onto the chinese you will never get it back(this is i presume what you would do)

Sorry mate but what do you mean there's only one ?

Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 2 years and just crawled out now?

Haha yeah under a rock thefinger

don't worry there's nothing sinister in my comment  angry

Ambro was referring to the pics above,thought he might think they are 2 different units,thats all mate,
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Mr.Leopard on August 23, 2012, 08:56:33 AM
Ahh right I was gona say LOL
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: in rod we trust on August 23, 2012, 06:14:07 PM
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Either one Ambro??there is only one,lol,break a leg mate,you can buy my drawings for $5000.00 and even use the name,you will get your money back by 2050 and if you get onto the chinese you will never get it back(this is i presume what you would do)


no thanks brett... don,t need to get the chinese to make them either, just open up a plant up at christmas island..plenty cheap labour there..;D
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: badwobble on September 10, 2012, 06:17:28 PM
Well it's been brought to my attention that the front throttle brake servo cutout is smaller than it was supposed to be,i did know the hitecs fitted on my 1st plates,but it appears the laser cutters failed to make the T/B servo hole on v2 plates the same size as the other,and i myself failed to check this again with a hitec as i installed savox servo's that are larger..^screwy* which required me to dremel out the edges of the cutout..i have since checked it with my old hitec and yeah it dosen't fit in the space.bang head

Due to this i have decided to drop the price to $50.00 posted as some dremel/file work will need to be done..
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: bradh79 on September 10, 2012, 07:01:07 PM
i want one :)
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Ddrummer16 on November 20, 2012, 10:25:50 PM
Thought I might give a heads up to those of you using the GTB alloy turnbuckles. This happened last race day

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Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Godles on March 01, 2013, 08:58:30 AM
Thought I would have a look into this lol

the required parts being the below I'm looking for recommendations - cheap and decent lol i know thats not really likely but what are you guys using and how have they held up?

I'd grab an elcon

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also would I be correct in saying that for an Ebaja I could dremel the back section away to allow for more battery space and still have my steering and brake servo?
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Mr.Leopard on March 01, 2013, 10:21:10 AM
Dont see why you couldnt luke...

Itll bring down the siZe a fair bit if you did

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Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: Ddrummer16 on March 01, 2013, 10:47:06 AM
I think most of us are using the elcon saver. I'm using a set of 1/8 DHK turnbuckles I think mine are 70mm but will measure again later to make sure. 

I did use the stock turnbuckles (servo saver to front hubs) for awhile until they ripped out of the plastic ends (I seem to be the only one that has happened to) then used GTB turnbuckles but as you see in the pics below then bent, so now running stock with alloy ends. Next thing I want to try are those IRP adjustable ones. 

Yes you can cut of the back section as there is another place to put the throttle servo
Title: Re: Neoplate
Post by: in rod we trust on March 01, 2013, 10:53:35 AM
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Thought I might give a heads up to those of you using the GTB alloy turnbuckles. This happened last race day

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why don't you just run down the road to a engineering shop or similar and just get them to make you some...

best way  i think