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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2014, 12:53:59 PM »
Only the HI temp engine enamel comes in gloss (I think)...Kane may know more..

I think you can get it up to 1200 degrees as well..

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2014, 01:28:12 PM »
Also Kev excuse my ignorance but your said cure it properly. How?

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2014, 01:30:31 PM »
You need to bake it on or heat cycle the part to make the paint hard..

Thats the limit of my paint knowledge mate.. thumbsup

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2014, 01:54:00 PM »
The info is on that link Kev posted

Dry Time: Curing time required and can be done on or off vehicle (see below)

Curing FlameProof™
VHT FlameProof™ Coating only attains its unique properties after correct curing (refer to instructions on the can).

On the Vehicle
•Paint must be completely dry before curing
•Run at idle for 10 minutes
•Cool for 20 minutes
•Run at idle for 20 minutes
•Cool for 20 minutes
•Run under normal operating conditions for 30 minutes

Off the Vehicle
•Paint must be completely dry before curing
•Heat to 250°F (121°C) for 30 minutes
•Cool for 30 minutes
•Heat to 400°F (204°C) for 30 minutes
•Cool for 30 minutes
•Heat to 650°F (343°C ) for 30 minutes
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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2014, 02:27:10 PM »
Cheers Kev and Steve. So do a bit of baking

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2014, 07:24:48 PM »
When I did mine Shane, I used the VHT flameproof stuff first, I could only find it in Matt finish. To get a gloss finish, I sprayed black gloss over the top, two coats. Then baked it by running the car....worked out great for me thumbsup
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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2014, 07:30:17 PM »
Sorry to say Mick (Grim Reaper) should have quoted. 2 race meets and your pipe paint work not too good. Would not waste my time for the results/longevity.
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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2014, 07:46:48 PM »
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Sorry to say Mick (Grim Reaper) should have quoted. 2 race meets and your pipe paint work not too good. Would not waste my time for the results/longevity.

Sheesh..(quoted properly)..thanks for the compliment Richo (Smurfette) thumbsup  You obviously haven't been driving fast enough then  *fishing*
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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2014, 08:28:06 PM »
Pot Belly Black is the go for pipes, rated to 1500 and a nice flat black thumbsup

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2014, 09:00:57 PM »
Normally and i'm no expert, heat the pipe either in an oven or with a bernz-o-matic or oxy, i have done this with

 several sets of 1:1 car extractors and  bike pipes, i had this HX for 4 years and painted those pipes using the heat

 method, heat then first coat, then heat the pipe-s again, don't use raw flame on the pipe after the first coat, or 

further coats and then let it cool naturally, i also used a VHT flame proof paint. hope it's not too long winded and 

helps, thumbsup
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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2014, 09:18:47 PM »
Thanks for the input guys. I also should have mentioned that the pipe is black already from the factory. But I wanted to tidy it up. Being painted already change the procedure of curing when I paint again

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2014, 09:25:52 PM »
scuff it up using steel wool and still heat it, but no direct flame on the existing paint.
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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2014, 09:30:09 PM »
Cheers Craig. Heating in the oven will be fine?

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2014, 09:31:57 PM »
Certainly, also only very light coats, if it's too hot paint will probably run.
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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2014, 09:57:31 PM »
Cheers craig

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2014, 11:40:42 PM »
Yep only comes in matt finish to my knowledge, def cure in oven and as Craig said absolute bare minimum thin coats just to get coverage, less is more with exhaust paint for longevity.
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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2014, 11:59:31 PM »
Thanks Kane I'll give it a crack

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2014, 12:04:20 AM »
Shane why don't you get it ceramic ? I bought the paint but saw couple of guys at our track paint much easy get damage . They did bake n very thin layer too . Or maybe you like color to match the car ?


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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2014, 01:06:36 AM »
+1 if your pipe wasnt already painted black  then ceramic would of been a good option .
The $19-$25 pricetag on VHT can be saved and put toward ceramic coating which Tommy gets done for $40, and thats for bigbore pipes  ^screwy*
Black ceramic coat comes out flat/matt .
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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2014, 07:42:53 AM »
Good thing about paint though is that you can always, easily touch it up thumbsup

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2014, 01:45:23 PM »
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Sorry to say Mick (Grim Reaper) should have quoted. 2 race meets and your pipe paint work not too good. Would not waste my time for the results/longevity.

This was not that clear and by no means a reflestion on Micks work. Of all the surface coatings for metal, paint has the poorest adhesion qualities.
After a few endos my pipe now has several very visable track scratches *rofl* I would not waste my time with the fiddly VHT paint on an exposed pipe.
As craig991 said "pot belly black" much less work to apply, if you must spray a pipe.
White Knight does an aerosol can for $22 and Rust Alum is $14. Both are rated to 300 degrees C. by the manufacturers specs.
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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2014, 08:07:14 PM »
After all that I decided to take the easy way out and stripped it back to a polished raw pipe

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2014, 08:24:22 PM »
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After all that I decided to take the easy way out and stripped it back to a polished raw pipe

easy way out nono expected better out of you mate 1oops1

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2014, 10:27:17 PM »
Lol it was an executive decision on the appearance gabz


And a shit load easier

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Re: Getting back into largescale build
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2014, 10:29:49 PM »
I'll put some more pics up when I mount up the pipe. All I'm waiting on now is the wrap for the kraken cage panels and shocks and it's done